jaycee Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 For thoise of you that don't know, I recently acquired a 1995 RR-S FireBlade. I noticed today that the VIN plate and the plate with the tested dB is in French. Does this mean my bike is a neutered import? I remarked to a mate, who has an RRT, when I bought the bike, that my old GSXR 750 SRAD would have annihilated it with performance. Today I struggled to keep up with a (admittedly very well-ridden) Yamaha Fazer 600. I am not the fastest rider, but the horsepower of my old 750 more than made up for that, I just seem to so slow on the 'Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Probably best to speak to your local Honda dealer? Its a bummer if it is mind, but how much more than 100bhp do blades of that vintage make? You may not be missing out on that many BHP IYSWIM. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Sounds like you may have discovered the reason for its 'sluggishness'... French market bikes are required to have a *claimed* 106bhp at the crank. That means you'll be lucky to have 95 at the wheel. And rumour has it that Hondas are the hardest to de-restrict - it'll probably be a lot simpler with a carbed model like yours than a more recent one, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 And rumour has it that Hondas are the hardest to de-restrict - it'll probably be a lot simpler with a carbed model like yours than a more recent one, though... Who was it who said that French bikes are actually engineered to produce 106BHP (was it Millemille?) I.E its restricted with the cams, carbs and everything? Or have I just made that up? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Who was it who said that French bikes are actually engineered to produce 106BHP (was it Millemille?) I.E its restricted with the cams, carbs and everything? Or have I just made that up? Andy It was probably me and I read it in MCN and, stupidly, believed it.... They're meant to be, but it seems most manufacturers just fib and the French authorities take their word for it that its all comprehensively engineered in as they give the parts different numbers ot the full power bits but they're all the sodding same..... Except for Hondas, allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I've emailed Honda UK with the bike's info, I'll wait to see if they get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Sniff the airbox. Does it have a whiff of garlic about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom_1991 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Sniff the airbox. Does it have a whiff of garlic about it? 'Kin lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom_1991 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Oh and a cheap dyno run or find if the restrictions easy to identify in the intake somewhere and have a peek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Well had confirmation from Honda UK that the bike is UK spec. So its just me that's shit then, carry on as you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Muff Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Well had confirmation from Honda UK that the bike is UK spec. So its just me that's shit then, carry on as you were You big poof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDMitch Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Well had confirmation from Honda UK that the bike is UK spec. So its just me that's shit then, carry on as you were Might be worth getting someone to look the bike over and give it some dyno time? Before admitting what a big woos you really are. Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilchicken0 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Bimota did it to the SB6, I think. But back in the day ... Kwaks used different carb tops to limit the throttle opening - change the tops Suzuki had metal restriction rings in the top of the downpipes - break the tack weld Yamaha used a web in the carb rubbers - cut the web out, the cleaner the cut the better the derestriction. Not sure about honda A lot of the pressant French machines are done in the CDI this can be undone with a switch under the seat or so I've heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 A lot of the pressant French machines are done in the CDI this can be undone with a switch under the seat or so I've heard This is what I was referring to - my insurance guy here said he had his 1198 derestricted in under 5 minutes before he even rode it out of the dealer. I get the feeling that, maybe, all the manufacturers did do it, then realised they could just use new parts numbers and just do it with a few electronics tricks on FI bikes 'cos no-one really checks them properly. I have been told that Suzukis and Kawasakis are the same, don't know about Yamahas but modern Hondas are a bastard to do as they stick to the 'uneconomic to de-restrict' rule. Allegedly. Its still confiscation of the machine, up to 2 years in jail and up to E30 000 fine for having a full power bike on French plates though.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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